Comments on: Therapy in Constant Negative Base Line Pressure http://portalung.com/blog/2008/06/30/therapy-in-constant-negative-base-line-pressure/% Just another WordPress weblog Mon, 28 May 2012 20:24:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: submarine susie http://portalung.com/blog/2008/06/30/therapy-in-constant-negative-base-line-pressure/%#comment-24 submarine susie Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:00:12 +0000 http://portalung.com/blog/?p=62#comment-24 Huh! You have an interesting perspective on the porta lung. It assists the patient to breathe well but doesn't FORCE the patient to breathe? I don't know. Give me some health problems to think about and maybe I can think of some natural remedies. How about vitamins or herbs? Acupuncture? Huh! You have an interesting perspective on the porta lung. It assists the patient to breathe well but doesn’t FORCE the patient to breathe? I don’t know. Give me some health problems to think about and maybe I can think of some natural remedies. How about vitamins or herbs? Acupuncture?

]]> By: Rambler http://portalung.com/blog/2008/06/30/therapy-in-constant-negative-base-line-pressure/%#comment-22 Rambler Mon, 07 Jul 2008 04:44:16 +0000 http://portalung.com/blog/?p=62#comment-22 What struck me first about Porta Lung is that it works with "natural forces"(air pressure)to ASSIST not force the body's natural processes. It ALLOWS the body to breathe well, doesn't MAKE it breathe. When I was first seeking help for severe back problems, a wonderful doctor pointed me to tai chi...and over time, that slow mindful energy-conducive movement allowed my body to fall back into alignment and grow stronger. Saved me from surgery. What other processes or challenges could benefit from an approach that allows healing(not forces) and uses natural forces like air/internal pressure by merging with them, not mimic or reproduce them? Don't know right now...let's think of some! What struck me first about Porta Lung is that it works with “natural forces”(air pressure)to ASSIST not force the body’s natural processes. It ALLOWS the body to breathe well, doesn’t MAKE it breathe. When I was first seeking help for severe back problems, a wonderful doctor pointed me to tai chi…and over time, that slow mindful energy-conducive movement allowed my body to fall back into alignment and grow stronger. Saved me from surgery. What other processes or challenges could benefit from an approach that allows healing(not forces) and uses natural forces like air/internal pressure by merging with them, not mimic or reproduce them? Don’t know right now…let’s think of some!

]]> By: submarine susie http://portalung.com/blog/2008/06/30/therapy-in-constant-negative-base-line-pressure/%#comment-18 submarine susie Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:31:59 +0000 http://portalung.com/blog/?p=62#comment-18 Yes it is! :-) But, wouldn't you say that breath is pretty much the core to one's physical life? Without breath, we would all be dead, right? :-) The medical establishment is working much harder to treat the person as a whole. But they need doctors need to have time to listen to the patient's concerns and then treat the individual's needs. Patients shouldn't be treated as numbers but as people. Exactly! And one that one way or another way is different for every person. Everyone is different so we all can't be treated the same way. What do you mean by "Wonder what the Porta Lung approach would look like addressing other physical processes and challenges?" What other physical processes or challenges? Yes it is! :-) But, wouldn’t you say that breath is pretty much the core to one’s physical life? Without breath, we would all be dead, right? :-) The medical establishment is working much harder to treat the person as a whole. But they need doctors need to have time to listen to the patient’s concerns and then treat the individual’s needs. Patients shouldn’t be treated as numbers but as people. Exactly! And one that one way or another way is different for every person. Everyone is different so we all can’t be treated the same way.

What do you mean by “Wonder what the Porta Lung approach would look like addressing other physical processes and challenges?”

What other physical processes or challenges?

]]> By: Rambler http://portalung.com/blog/2008/06/30/therapy-in-constant-negative-base-line-pressure/%#comment-17 Rambler Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:03:54 +0000 http://portalung.com/blog/?p=62#comment-17 Great dialogue! Isn't it amazing how we can go from the topic of Breath to the heart of life itself? The medical establishment has just lately opened to the truth that a human body isn't a machine that can be fixed, altered or "souped-up" like a car. Sure, sometimes the first task is to keep the thing running, but HOW that's accomplished affects the whole healing process,and the person too. Treat a physical condition one way,and "the machine" just breaks down somewhere else. Treat it ANOTHER way,and the effort awakens that spark of energy/life/Divine that infuses our whole being with healing and strength.Wonder what the Porta-Lung approach would look like addressing other physical processes and challenges? Lots of topics here. More later...be well, keep breathing! Randy Great dialogue! Isn’t it amazing how we can go from the topic of Breath to the heart of life itself? The medical establishment has just lately opened to the truth that a human body isn’t a machine that can be fixed, altered or “souped-up” like a car. Sure, sometimes the first task is to keep the thing running, but HOW that’s accomplished affects the whole healing process,and the person too. Treat a physical condition one way,and “the machine” just breaks down somewhere else. Treat it ANOTHER way,and the effort awakens that spark of energy/life/Divine that infuses our whole being with healing and strength.Wonder what the Porta-Lung approach would look like addressing other physical processes and challenges? Lots of topics here. More later…be well, keep breathing! Randy

]]> By: submarine susie http://portalung.com/blog/2008/06/30/therapy-in-constant-negative-base-line-pressure/%#comment-15 submarine susie Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:03:15 +0000 http://portalung.com/blog/?p=62#comment-15 I agree with you. Breath is The most important expression of life, I think. It is the one expression which shows that a person is alive. It is pretty much the basis for every other expression (movement, touch, etc). Yes, the Porta-Lung offers that assistance for healing but the Porta-Lung is simply a tool in the hand of the great Healer, God. As a firm Roman Catholic, I believe God showed us how to get a Porta-Lung so that I could be healed from my respiratory failure. And He used a respirator, the Porta-Lung which is natural to the respiratory system to heal me. God uses the Porta-Lung to spark the energy needed for my body to function, which gives hope. The will to live is renewed, yes, but the will to live is instinctive, driven deep inside from God. God is the Author of Life, He chooses whether to give life or take it away. So, while I was on positive pressure I still had the will to live. I wanted to live and fought to live even though I knew positive pressure went against my respiratory system. When it was killing me, I still had the will to live and trusted God would make it possible for us to use the Porta- Lung. Yes, I participate with the healing instrument because it feels natural and good. I really don't know if it was blood pressure that made my heart rate skyrocket. Maybe...could be! Whenever I visit the doctor nowadays, my blood pressure is usually very low! lol! No worries, I guess. Yes, you're right, I panicked A LOT while I was on positive pressure. It was probably because my body was vulnerable or solely at the machine's mercy and not given the chance to participate. This is what I also meant by the slave principle of positive pressure. Yes, the Porta Lung is cooperating with ME. It's doing what my body wants it to do. The Porta Lung breathes FOR me and then I breathe (silently) with it. I agree with you. Breath is The most important expression of life, I think. It is the one expression which shows that a person is alive. It is pretty much the basis for every other expression (movement, touch, etc). Yes, the Porta-Lung offers that assistance for healing but the Porta-Lung is simply a tool in the hand of the great Healer, God. As a firm Roman Catholic, I believe God showed us how to get a Porta-Lung so that I could be healed from my respiratory failure. And He used a respirator, the Porta-Lung which is natural to the respiratory system to heal me. God uses the Porta-Lung to spark the energy needed for my body to function, which gives hope. The will to live is renewed, yes, but the will to live is instinctive, driven deep inside from God. God is the Author of Life, He chooses whether to give life or take it away. So, while I was on positive pressure I still had the will to live. I wanted to live and fought to live even though I knew positive pressure went against my respiratory system. When it was killing me, I still had the will to live and trusted God would make it possible for us to use the Porta- Lung. Yes, I participate with the healing instrument because it feels natural and good. I really don’t know if it was blood pressure that made my heart rate skyrocket. Maybe…could be! Whenever I visit the doctor nowadays, my blood pressure is usually very low! lol! No worries, I guess. Yes, you’re right, I panicked A LOT while I was on positive pressure. It was probably because my body was vulnerable or solely at the machine’s mercy and not given the chance to participate. This is what I also meant by the slave principle of positive pressure. Yes, the Porta Lung is cooperating with ME. It’s doing what my body wants it to do. The Porta Lung breathes FOR me and then I breathe (silently) with it.

]]> By: Rambler http://portalung.com/blog/2008/06/30/therapy-in-constant-negative-base-line-pressure/%#comment-14 Rambler Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:42:21 +0000 http://portalung.com/blog/?p=62#comment-14 I've always felt the nature of "therapy" is to assist, nurture,and "en-courage"natural life functions...the elements of expression(so to speak)of a living being. Breath is an expression of life. So is touch. Movement. One vital aspect of the healing process itself, any kind of healing, may well be the act of offering assistance which is then received. The center of our being gets that spark of energy, connection, hope. The will to live is renewed and sustained.It's best when it's a natural thing though,this giving and receiving..we participate. I wonder if one reason your heartrate would skyrocket with positive pressure was this; your body sensed it had no choice or participation in the breathing process. It could only wait for the machine to deliver a blast of air, in whatever "dose" the machine was set for. On some level(blood pressure..Panic!) it freaked out. You use the words "appreciate" and "refeshment" in connection with the Porta Lung experience, which sounds like it's a more natural and co-operative process, like you're both breathing your body, participating as a whole. That's got to be healthier...and feel better! Thanks for the info and insight. I’ve always felt the nature of “therapy” is to assist, nurture,and “en-courage”natural life functions…the elements of expression(so to speak)of a living being. Breath is an expression of life. So is touch. Movement. One vital aspect of the healing process itself, any kind of healing, may well be the act of offering assistance which is then received. The center of our being gets that spark of energy, connection, hope. The will to live is renewed and sustained.It’s best when it’s a natural thing though,this giving and receiving..we participate. I wonder if one reason your heartrate would skyrocket with positive pressure was this; your body sensed it had no choice or participation in the breathing process. It could only wait for the machine to deliver a blast of air, in whatever “dose” the machine was set for. On some level(blood pressure..Panic!) it freaked out. You use the words “appreciate” and “refeshment” in connection with the Porta Lung experience, which sounds like it’s a more natural and co-operative process, like you’re both breathing your body, participating as a whole. That’s got to be healthier…and feel better! Thanks for the info and insight.

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